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Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Word. I just watched that episode on line tonight and, trolling Facebook after, ran across this article. Sheds a LOT of light on the comments Jon made just before the segment. I live on the west coast. Have never been to a pro football game let alone one in D.C. The shit that you describe happening to you guys at the tailgate is frankly, just... unbelievable. Not that I don't believe you but that I just can't even wrap my brain around people, in the fucking year 2014, acting like that. It defies any sort of reason. As if you three were some sort of threat to... to what, I can't even imagine. A coarsely ignorant, self absorbed and wholly unsympathetic of the plights of others lifestyle? I also have to wonder how offended those people would be if there were a major market sport franchise, made up of pretty much all non white athletes, that had a cartoony hillbilly for a mascot and was called the Carolina Crackers or the Virginia Hayseeds? My guess is that shit would get shut down pretty fucking quick. Good work, congratulations on the gig(!), keep your head up and know that not all of us (by a damn sight) are such fuckin idiots.

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Posted by RXMR on 09/30/2014 at 2:50 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Word. I just watched that episode on line tonight and, trolling Facebook after, ran across this article. Sheds a LOT of light on the comments John made just before the segment. I live on the west coast. Have never been to a pro football game let alone one in D.C. The shit that you describe happening to you guys at the tailgate is frankly, just... unbelievable. Not that I don't believe you but that I just can't even wrap my brain around people, in the fucking year 2014, acting like that. It defies any sort of reason. As if you three were some sort of threat to... to what, I can't even imagine. A coarsely ignorant, wholly unsympathetic of the plights of others lifestyle? I also have to wonder how offended those people would be if there were a major market sport franchise, made up of pretty much all non white athletes, that had a cartoony hillbilly for a mascot and was called the Carolina Crackers or the Virginia Hayseeds? My guess is that shit would get shut down pretty fucking quick. Good work, congratulations on the gig(!), keep your head up and know that not all of us (by a damn sight) are such fuckin idiots.

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Posted by RXMR on 09/30/2014 at 2:45 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

The behavior at the tailgate is so shameful, no matter their race. Really discouraging, especially over something so important to one side & so superficial to the other.

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Posted by jv85255 on 09/29/2014 at 6:44 PM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

I'm wondering if anybody here has ever been to an NFL game in a major city. There is a reason not to take your kids anymore.

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Posted by Wayne on 09/29/2014 at 6:13 PM

Re: “Munchies

I thought it was marijuana...:-)

Posted by Walter Clemmons on 09/29/2014 at 4:35 PM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

This thing about asking people about the Redskin name from people who claim to be Indian is ridiculous. Because these people have no idea what it is to be Native. Some have never even been to a Pow Wow or know what any Native activities are all about. They claim native blood to take advantage of any government educational grants and programs. They don't know the first thing about being Native American. They are disgrace to the Native Nation they claim to be from. In my opinion they are an embrassement to the Cherokee Nation cause they all claim to be of Cherokee decent.

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Posted by Mando on 09/29/2014 at 4:16 PM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Can a Native American mascot or symbol be used by a professional or college team and the use of which not be deemed racist? I ask because the University of Utah and Florida State (the Utes and the Seminoles respectively) asked permission and, over the years, have worked with those nations to produce respectful depictions. The legacy of Native Americans is an important and integral part of the United States. Is there a way to use these depictions with respect? By the way, I am not trying to excuse the use of the term redskin at all.

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Posted by Sophie Cue on 09/29/2014 at 3:29 PM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Wow. First, some commenters need to go read up on privilege and what it means. Also, those who are talking about 'rights' need to remember that with rights come responsibilities. We have the right to freedom of speech. We have the responsibility to ensure that our words do not promote hate, or perpetuate the idea that some cultures are less important or valid than others. You can't just have the rights without the responsibilities even though clearly a lot of commenters and football fans think otherwise.
Fantastic piece of writing, Migizi. Was scarily easy to imagine the scene. And the little waif girl - makes me wonder how it would've been to be anything but white around her at school.

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Posted by Melissa Andrew on 09/29/2014 at 1:51 PM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Because she was terrorized and crying she "knew she was wrong" Kind of like the logic that if a man you were going to lynch ran away, it was proof of his guilt!

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Posted by Jim Green on 09/29/2014 at 11:55 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

They should just the names of every mascot from every team!

I am offended by the Raiders, Vikings, Pirates, Devils, and even more outraged by the use of animal names for teams.

Just refer to them as the Washington NFL team, Pittsburgh Baseball team, New Jersey hockey team. This way there is no way possible anyone can be offended or misconstrue the meaning/definition of a teams mascot!

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Posted by USAHIM on 09/29/2014 at 10:50 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

I am Irish and I find the name Notre Dame Fighting Irish insensitive..We are a peaceful people

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Posted by Wilson Magger on 09/29/2014 at 10:44 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

I suppose you can call it free speech. I understand that it really isn't free at all but defended at great cost. So there are no NYC Kykes, Atlanta Darkies, or Arizona Mud Backs, or SF Faggots. I always ask "When your (Gay, Jewish, Black, Latino) friends are having dinner with your family how do they feel when you call them that?" Usually there is no answer.

Facing ones own denial is sometime traumatic and emotional but always better then living in a fantasy.

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Posted by Pablo Guba on 09/29/2014 at 9:51 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Jon Stewart believes Native Americans should be forced to pay for U.S. government schools to teach Native children the ways of the white man, because he believes if Native children do not attend U.S. government schools they will grow to be uncivilized and reckless. Jon Stewart is laughing at you right now believes you are too stupid to realize you have been duped. He is counting on you not going to the media to protest his support for the indoctrination of your children. He has always been very adamant about denying parents choice concerning whether their children are educated under the U.S. federal government ruled by the white man.

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Posted by Peter Rodriguez on 09/29/2014 at 9:41 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

What everyone forgets is the first amendment. Either it applies to everyone or it means nothing. If you dont like the name dont watch them or support them. Just remember everyone is offended by something.

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Posted by John Hamilton on 09/29/2014 at 8:45 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

We are the last group of people who can be openly mocked without social repercussions. For me, it's more about the absolutely offensive fan behavior that makes my blood boil. Lose the name, and eventually the behavior will fade away. By upholding the name, they support the behavior.

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Posted by Michael Galban on 09/29/2014 at 7:04 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

I find it embarrassing when individuals treat others without respct and kindness.
I happen to have peachy (wanna be tan) colored skin.
Now, I was born a female (Scot, Nowegian and German heritage ...we don't get to choose who we are born to or where).
In the past that would be a couple of strikes against me already.
Before I was born my Grandmother married a man of the Turtle Mountain Chippewa Cree Nation.
This kind and gentle man was my Grandfather in every sense of the word. Not by blood but by love.
There wasn't prejusticism, color, or rasism. He accepted me as I was and I loved him with a childs heart, openly without boundries and unconditionally.
I am sorry the tailgaters etc. treated you without respect and threatened you.
I grew up respecting others. To treat a Native American poorly ...would be treatng my beloved Grandfather without dignity.
You are welcome at my tailgate party anytime Migizi....U of M Griz kind tailgater and football fan
Respectfully,
Sonja

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Posted by unicrown58 on 09/29/2014 at 6:57 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

If the team changed its logo and mascot from a Native American to a potato, they could probably keep the name.

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Posted by Robert Bruce on 09/29/2014 at 6:01 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

Who cares. We natives are nothing but statistics. We have the shortest life expectancy, highest rate of alcoholism, drug addiction, suicide, diabetes, high blood pressure, teen pregnancy, domestic violence..the list goes on...the mascot didn't make me drink, didn't make me beat my wife, nor did it make me kill myself...so go kill yourself and blame the mascot...maybe that will work...the world will still spin n people will still be insensitive...at the end of the day, a football team is the least of my concerns ...I'm just a reZ NDN tho...So nothing concerns me

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Posted by Richard Axtell on 09/29/2014 at 5:56 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

To the person who asked to have "White Privilege" defined. When I use the term 'white privilege', I use it like this: "Consider it my white privilege". I often find it insensitive for people to claim 'First Nation' Heritage when there's nothing to it. Especially if they can trace their family ancestry in the Americas back a few hundred years. It's one thing for me to say, for example, "Oh, I have Huron blood, most definitely." However, I can't ... all I know is that I'm French Canadian, and the vast majority of French Canadians do indeed have some First Nation Heritage. It's indisputable. I do believe that a person's claim to their Heritage is more than a statement. It is a knowledge, understanding and appreciation of their ancestors. Irregardless of whether they are German, Chinese, Somali, Assiniboine, etc. A person's Heritage makes up who they are and adds to how they see the world around them. Any ass-hat can say, "I am Scottish" and get away with it. I can say I'm Scottish. I have a French Accent, I'm fairly short in stature, French is my first language, I'm Roman Catholic, I'm fair skinned, but I'm Scottish. <- Understand? The difference in Heritage lies in what people know or understand about 'their own identity'. These people obviously don't (the video). Most people call themselves "White". What is white? There's an entire continent full of white people - and they have little in common. Know what I mean? Which brings me back to the term "White Privilege" that I use on myself: it is indeed my white privilege to get away with things such as lie, break the law, use illicit drugs, run away, cry over spilled milk, disrespect my parents, etc. etc. etc. ... and I still come out smelling like roses! However, "White" is not my identity. It is simply my privilege. My identity is Qu├ębecoise. Understand?

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Posted by Léa Maro Langelier on 09/29/2014 at 1:39 AM

Re: “"I'll fucking cut you." Behind the scenes of the 1491s' segment on "The Daily Show"

I think we can forget how terrible people are when we aren't faced to confront it. Thank you for talking about this. You're way braver than I am. You're heroes!

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Posted by Jennifer Teeter on 09/29/2014 at 12:13 AM

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